Poolhouse is BACKK—fully recharged from his summer sojourns and Eurodance deep dives—delivering the remote viewing audience a straight-up classic: two mics, no agenda, just pure free-associative anon-on-anon shmoozefest with a returning favorite: Heavy Body himself, aka Mac, aka Big Mac McCarthy (RIP), outlaw poster and indie rock survivor.

The boys get into the burdens of being an rocknroll exile and the cultural comeback of real swagger, the perilous state of being an “unvaccinated indie rocker” in 2025, and how the freewheeling, Western-chauvinist spirit of rock got hijacked by a corporately fueled virtue-signal sideshow.

The war on men, AI talk therapy, pop’s re-commodification of rock, what makes the perfect cover version, does Paramore suck, and the eternal question: does the aging parapolitard-indie rock millennial male deserve forgiveness—or the gulag?

But at its heart, it’s just two dudes (one normal, one Poolhouse) shooting the shit, having a laugh, and carving out space in that spectral zone beyond love and hate, war and peace. This is HERE COMES THE BACKKLASH at its most raw, rugged, effervescent, and irreverent.

*this episode was recorded on the morning of September 6, 2025.

**I do not know where the intermittent space hiss sounds near the beginning came from I tried to edit as many out as I could but wtf

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Episode Chapters

(0:00 ) - ‘love + hate’ (theme from here comes the backklash) feat. Heavy Body

(0:58 ) - 8-trakk intro

(5:35 ) - welcome backk, mac

(8:15 ) - I’ll cover u

(20:07 ) - do u like paramore?

(23:30 ) - The Night Big Mac McCarthy Died

(30:35 ) - Less Rockk More Talkk Therapy

(41:31 ) - Monsters of Unvaccinated Indie Rock

(1:00:33 ) - Rock the Vaxx II

(51:33 ) - No CBGB for Bold Men

(1:09:33 ) - Woke Rock Demon Hunters

(1:23:33 ) - The Pop Art Stoicism of Heavy Body

(1:26:28 ) - Searching for a Quest of Our Own

(1:30:25 ) - Ultimix Ultimode w/ Big Mac McCarthy

(1:38:04 ) - Theme from backklash reprise + Outro feat. Heavy Body

Episode Mixtape

Heavy Body - “Love + hate” (backklash theme cover)

Heavy Body - Shirt (from “B”)

Hayley Williams - Mirtazapine

STP - Trippin’ on a Hole in a Paper Heart

Decius - Look Like a Man (Poolhouse Dub Edit)

White Zombie - More Human Than Human (Meet Bambi In The King's Harem Mix)

Doja Cat - Jealous Type (Instrumental Bumper Edit)

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